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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.01.11 06:09:00 -
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Margin Trading Scam - A Guide https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18942 |

Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.01.11 06:13:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote: I've suggested elsewhere that negative wallet balances should be supported, so that if you fail a margin order, then you may end up in debt. If you have a negative balance on one toon in your account, then the funds required to cover the negative balance should be seized automatically from the wallets of any other toons on the same account. If the amount cannot be covered even by all three toons on an account, then game time should be deducted from the account, using the current average PLEX price as the conversion factor for game time vs. ISK.
People would just use trial alts to do the scam, or an alt paid via PLEX for 1 month.
The only real fixes for margin trading scams involve removing the margin trading skill. Or make the market window automatically cause orders which don't have the ISK needed to cover the order automatically cancel.
The sad thing is that there are legitimate uses of the margin trading skill (such as having a few dozen buy orders up, without having to front 100% of the cash). |

Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.01.11 21:07:00 -
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malaire wrote: EDIT: Also for legitimate buy orders with big range the minimal quantity is a must - you dont want to go fetch 1 tritanium from each station in range.
As a corollary - any order with a buy volume of >100 where the minimum quantity is also a major fraction of the outstanding buy volume - should be generally avoided. Which is an easy way to avoid most buy orders which are scams. Especially if you would need at least 50M ISK worth of goods to meet the minimum quantity.
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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.01.12 19:51:00 -
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Highlighting orders that cannot complete due to funds would probably be a good middle ground.
Alternately, just hide those orders (but not cancel them) from the market window whenever the ISK in the wallet is less then what would be required to fulfill the minimum qty order. Basically, without the ISK to buy even the minimum qty, they become a null entity for the duration until the issue is fixed.
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